You’re segmenting wrong (and it’s costing you)

Segmentation that actually drives results

In Partnership With

Hey CS Pro,

If segmentation just means “big accounts get more time,” you’re missing the point.

In today’s episode, I’m joined by Kelley Turner, SVP of Customer Success at Vitally, to break down the segmentation strategies that actually scale and feel personal. Go check out the podcast to hear the full conversation…

But first, today’s sponsor

Want to become your CS team’s secret weapon?

What if I told you that most CSMs don’t get promoted or hit targets because they’re stuck reacting instead of driving real outcomes?

On Thursday, July 10, I’m hosting a free live masterclass to help you fix that…

The CS Revenue Framework: 3 Steps That Show Value to Your Customers

I’ll show you how to:

  • Shift from reactive to strategic

  • Prove value without needing a perfect product

  • Turn every renewal into an upsell opportunity

It’s everything I wish I knew earlier in my CS career.

Join live and learn how to start driving revenue, not just managing accounts.

 Thursday, July 10 at 10am PT / 1pm ET / 6pm UK

🔗 Save your spot now: thecustomersuccesspro.com/masterclass

ARR is NOT your strategy

Kelley’s view on segmentation? It’s not just about slicing customers into big, medium, and small. That’s a starting point… not a strategy.

At Vitally, she’s built out two segmentation models:

  1. Operational segmentation: Think cost-to-serve, ARR, support needs, complexity. This is the finance lens, and yes, Kelley started her career as a controller before jumping into CS.

  2. Engagement segmentation: Based on how customers want to work with you. Are they regulated or not? Are they a RevOps admin or an exec buyer? Do they want self-serve tools or 1:1 guidance?

Why does this matter? Because your enterprise champion and your startup IC do not want the same thing from you.

And more importantly…they shouldn’t get the same thing from you either.

Scale doesn’t mean spam

One of my favorite takeaways from Kelley’s team? Segmentation fuels automation.

Here’s how they do it:

  1. They segment based on who the user is (IC, admin, exec).

  2. They map each cohort to a value-driving feature.

  3. Then, they send tailored playbook-driven messages from the CSM that speak to the WIIFM (what’s in it for me) for that person.

Same message? Nope.

  • For the IC: “Here’s how I use this feature in my day-to-day.”

  • For the leader: “Here’s how it shows up in your dashboard.”

  • For the admin: “Here’s how to build a repeatable process.”

And guess what? It landed. They re-engaged ghosted customers with just one personalized message, sent at scale.

That’s the difference between doing segmentation and using segmentation to scale value.

The future is AI-powered (but still personal)

Segmentation is evolving fast, and AI is about to supercharge what’s possible.

Kelley shared how AI will soon:

  • Predict segmentation models based on ARR, engagement, and forecasted growth

  • Pull sentiment from every call so you know which champions are referenceable

  • Automate playbooks based on user behavior and role-level nuance

The coolest example?

Her CSMs ghostwrite exec emails that Kelley can quickly personalize and send, so she’s not the bottleneck, and the customer gets a high-touch moment that actually matters.

That’s AI + segmentation done right. It’s not about blasting 10,000 customers. It’s about using data to craft the right message at the right time…for the right person.

And for those of you thinking, “This sounds great, but we don’t have that data,” Kelley says, just start with one feature. Identify a moment that delivers value. See who’s using it, who’s not, and build from there.

3 Takeaways

1. Segmentation is about strategy, not size

Start with ARR if you must, but evolve fast. Segment by goals, industry, maturity, and engagement preferences.

2. Personalization still scales

Use automation to amplify your team, not replace them. Speak to the person, not the persona.

3. Start simple

Pick one sticky feature and target non-users. That’s your entry point to smarter segmentation.

This episode with Kelley Turner is a must-listen for CSMs, CS leaders, and anyone trying to scale without losing that personal touch.

Have a listen to the latest podcast:

Watch on YouTube

Listen on Spotify

Listen on Apple

Linkedin Posts from this Week

Just in case you missed my other content this week:

🔗 Being a Strategic CS Pro is NOT a checklist

🔗 Most CSMs miss revenue hiding in plain sight 🙈

🔗 The CS community is everything.

🔗 No one is coming to save your career.

Enjoyed this week’s newsletter?

As you know, I create practical and tactical CS content every week—from revenue-driving strategies to real-world playbooks you can use immediately.

If you’ve found these insights helpful, can I ask a small favor?

Please share The Customer Success Pro Newsletter with a colleague or friend in your network who’s looking to sharpen their CS skills and become a true revenue partner. Your support helps me keep this content free and impactful for the entire CS community.

Thank you for being part of this journey!

That's all for now.

If you have any questions or suggestions, please feel free to contact us.

Cheers to your CS success,

Anika

PS - CSM RevUP Academy is currently full. Don't miss your shot at next time! Get the strategies, playbooks, and build your confidence into a revenue-generating CS Pro. Join the VIP Waitlist today to be first notified when the doors open again.

The Customer Success Pro Resources

Whenever you are ready to take the next step, here’s how I can help:

👉️ The Customer Success Pro Podcast

👉️ Unlock Revenue in a QBR Guide

👉️ 100 AI Prompts for CS Guide

👉️ Train AI to be Your Revenue Generating Customer Success Co-Pilot

👉️ CSM RevUP Acacdemy

Reply

or to participate.